Poseidon Redwood Frame Set Build

Shooting for a sub-20-lb adventure/light bike-packing/paved bike path ride that uses UST rims for easy swap of gravel/road tires within a set budget.

I have a 2001 GT ZR 3.0 with a 3x9 MicroShift with R9 drop bar shifters with a 22T-30T-40T chainwheel and an 11-40 9-speed cassette. (14.9 GI - 88-ish GI).

No worries with that, as my cadence runs from 40-60 rpm and I detest speeds over 15mph. A butterfly pace if you will.

So, I picked up a Poseidon Redwood Small all-aluminum frameset and came up with the following parts list to complete the all-rounder...

1-Poseidon Redwood Small aluminum frame & fork 3033.4gr / 107oz

2-Ritchey Kyote Carbon Flat Bar 31.8mm 800mm width 355gr / 12.5oz

3-Delta Cycle Stem Pro Extender Handlebar Riser 397gr / 14.0oz continual adjustment of height and reach for comfort...avatar78

4-MicroShift Pair of SL-M851-2 XLE Xpress Flat-Bar Shifters 2x11 225gr / 7.94oz

5-Easton EC90 T-800 Carbon Fiber seat-post 220gr / 7.76oz

6-Fizik Arione Donna 285mm x 147mm 285gr / 10.05oz

7-Raceface Atlas Cinch Crankset, 165mm w/36T 30mm spindle 1x11 698gr / 24.62oz

8-Mystery bottom bracket - Poseidon says 73mm x 110.5. They will sell the 1x11-speed 38T and bottom bracket for under 75-dollars...avatar78

9-MicroShift RD-M665L Long CLUTCH rear derailleur 47T- Capacity 380gr / 13.40oz

10-MicroShift G-SERIES 11 SPEED CASSETTE CS-G113 11- 46T 556gr – 19.61oz 11-13-15-18-21-24-28-32-36-40-46* 41T- Capacity

11-Two Mavic Allroad SL (UST) Gravel wheelset–1590gr / 56oz

12-Michelin Power Gravel 40mm tire w/ X-Miles compound & bead-to-bead Protek puncture protection (3) -120tpi layers 467gr / 16.47oz

13-SRAM 11-Speed CN-XX-1-A1 hard-chrome chain 246gr / 8.67oz

14-Two Juin Tech M1...Jumbo

15-TwoJagwire - LR1 Pro Lightweight Disc Rotors 160mm 210gr / 7.55oz

Total - 18.95-lbs (sans a few spacers, bolts for calipers, etc.

By the way, Poseidon offers a lifetime warranty but excludes the fork. They sell replacement forks for $100, so I suppose that is a fair trade-off). The forks are 1 1/8th" threadless taper to 1 1/2"

With the shortage of COVID-19 induced reduced workforce, this seemed a realistic option. No carbon as form follows function in this case.

That should be a fun bike!

Just a quick thought: I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure that the TRP HY/RD brakes won't play nicely with flat bar levers--wrong cable throw. Some brakes you might look into, if you want to go the hydro caliper route, is the Juin Tech M1. Those will work with your shifters, don't cost a ton, and should be very good. I had some Juin Tech GT-F calipers, and liked them a lot, though they weren't quite up to par with a full hydro setup.

Also, if you want to cut a bit of cost on the chain, I've had really good luck with PYC chains.

Thanks, Jumbo;

This parts list is in the planning stage and I should go with the Juin Tech M1 as the price is on budget, right along with the form factor. Looks like your suggestion is spot-on.

Looking good, I do get about 22.5 pounds when I add up the grams you listed, but that's still quite decent for how chonky the frameset starts out. A good thing is I think you double counted the brake calipers, and also you will need a Cinch-compatible bottom bracket from Race Face or whoever instead of the BB-26 boat anchor. So there's 600g saved right off the bat, probably 21 lb without pedals. Also since it's a metal steerer tube, I'd say you can eliminate the Delta stem riser and just run a regular stem with a ton of spacers, which will save some weight. 

avatar78 wrote:Also since it's a metal steerer tube, I'd say you can eliminate the Delta stem riser and just run a regular stem with a ton of spacers, which will save some weight. 

My math also sucks, sometimes 3 x 4 = 21 happens all the time. The adjustments on the reach and height are used to mitigate Titanium rods and plates in both legs and a ruptured 4th lower lumbar disk from 1993. Can you imagine 6.5-inches of spacers...✨

I googled "cinch compatible bottom bracket" ... now I am confused (Guilbeau's my name, electronics MY game) and not so much the black hole mystery of bottom brackets. 

joe_guilbeau wrote:
Can you imagine 6.5-inches of spacers...✨
 

You didn't see my Surly Midnight Special with the stem at the top of a totally uncut steerer tube haha. Re: the BB, I just recently have been getting familiar with it from picking up a Salsa Stormchaser (which, like the Redwood, runs a Race Face 73mm crank). You can just run the RF BSA (ie threaded) BB for a 30mm spindle, or if you want to be snazzier Wheels Mfg also has one. They each come with spacers you have to put in the right spots, but it doesn't look too complicated. 
Race Face: https://www.raceface.com/products/bsa-cinch-30mm
Wheels Mfg: https://wheelsmfg.com/bottom-brackets/threaded-bb/threaded-to-30mm-abec-3-bb-black.html

Adding Jagwire compressionless brake housing to JuinTech will get the most out of them. 

owly wrote:Adding Jagwire compressionless brake housing to JuinTech will get the most out of them. 

That's a good tip. You can also probably go to your LBS and get compressionless housing by the foot. That tends to be cheaper than buying a whole housing kit.

I am going to delete #3 - Delta Designs 14oz Handlebar riser to see if the flat bars (which pull back some) give a comfortable riding position, we shall see.

With the suggestions so far I am now at  19.53 lbs w/o pedals.

The Crank Brothers Eggbeater 11'1 comes in at 179gr / 6.32oz.  [Edit] Yikes! $400!!!... not so fast Poindexter!

[Edit] Xpedo MF-3 Mountain Force Clipless Pedals 312gr each

19-lbs 2.46-oz w/o pedals
20.40 with Xpedo MF-3 Force Clipless Pedals @$132 total for two

20.40 lbs 
All good suggestions, so good job.

By the way, Poseidon offers a lifetime warranty but excludes the fork. They sell replacement forks for $100, so I suppose that is a fair trade-off). The forks are 1 1/8th" threadless taper to 1 1/2"

I would be a little concerned over a non-warranted $100 fork.  Damn! I just broke my fork!  ... and my face, and my...

mike wrote:

By the way, Poseidon offers a lifetime warranty but excludes the fork. They sell replacement forks for $100, so I suppose that is a fair trade-off). The forks are 1 1/8th" threadless taper to 1 1/2"

I would be a little concerned over a non-warranted $100 fork.  Damn! I just broke my fork!  ... and my face, and my...

This is a valid concern.

I suppose most, if not all, bicycle warranties exclude crashes from coverage. Here is a quick survey of some popular gravel bike manufacturers' warranties.

Santa Cruz - The warranty for damage arising from accidents, crashes and other impacts is limited to offered replacement at a reduced charge as set forth abo

Cannondale - For any warranty claim to be considered, the bicycle must be brought in to an Authorized Cannondale Retailer on the same continent on which the bicycle was purchased. With our Crash Replacement program, we offer the original purchaser, who is the actual direct purchaser and a consumer who purchased the bicycle in compliance with our Terms and Conditions, the opportunity to replace your damaged Canyon frame at a greatly reduced cost. This offer is valid up to three (3) years after the original date of purchase.

Salsa - Five-Year Warranty Steel frames, Titanium frames, Carbon frames, Carbon front triangle of suspension frames. Three-Year Warranty Aluminum frames, Aluminum front triangles of suspension frames, All Salsa forks

Kona further warrants to the original owner that the frame of this new Kona bicycle purchased from an authorized Kona dealer shall be free of defective materials or workmanship for a THREE YEAR period for the ORIGINAL OWNER. If the warranty is registered with Kona NO LESS THAN THREE MONTHS after the purchase of the bicycle, THE WARRANTY IS EXTENDED FOR THE LIFETIME OF THE ORIGINAL OWNER, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CARBON BIKES & FRAMES. During this warranty period, Kona shall repair or replace, at its sole option, the bicycle frame if Kona determines the frame is defective and subject to this limited warranty. The original owner shall pay all labor and shipping charges connected with the repair or replacement of the bicycle frame.

BMC - 4. WARRANTY EXCLUSION The following components/parts and situations are excluded from this warranty or lead to exclusion from this warranty:
- Consequences of a fall

Specialized What is NOT covered by your warranty?
Replacement of wear and tear parts, damage from a crash or other accidental damage, and damage from abuse or corrosion are all examples of what is not covered. See the complete warranty policy for a more detailed list.

…and the beat goes on and on.

I will take the $100-dollar hit, and forego all of the conditions imposed (shipping costs and repair labor costs to install the fork) by the manufacturers, inclusive of Proof of Assembly by a certified bicycle shop by some of the manufactures. These all fall under the category of "comes with the territory", besides, I ride at a Butterfly Pace.✌