Been comparing geometries on lot of bikes, so far narrowed it down to these 2 bikes. I put an offer in on a 2016 Norco Search which I later retracted, partly due to some reviewers complaining of a harsh fork. Rode an Niner RLT alu which felt nice geometry wise but was kinda heavy and don't want mech discs. Sold my Trek Emonda which was the lightest bike I've ever owned, now riding my Yeti Cx bike which I converted to front mech disc, weighs 9.1 Kg (20.1 lbs), would like to have a light bike, lots of hills where I live. Haven't really seen these 2 popular gravel bikes compared. Any thoughts on these 2? Looking at a 54 and a 53 cm size bike as I'm 174 cm (about 5'8" or 9") tall.
I would put both into this website to compare stack and reach: http://www.bikegeo.net/ as well as enter the best road bike that you ever had fit wise - to compare. I find that the "reach" is the most important dimension, because you can always raise your saddle and stem heights.
All I can tell you is the Renegade is a great bike. But I can't offer you comparisons with the Warbird or tell you if it's the best bike for you. But in general...it's a very nice bike.
If you end up wanting the Jamis Renegade I have a 2016 54" Expert with less than 500 miles on it if your interested. It just didn't fit me or I never got use to it so I purchased a Giant TCX to replace it. You can email me at wrgriff1999@yahoo.com Thanks and good luck !
I have a 2015 Renegade Expert. When looking at similar bikes like the WarBird I just looked the components vs cost, the Renegade is a great value. The newer 2016 and 2017's are even better values as they have better wheels, thru-axles on the rear, and full hydraulic brakes. I'm 5'9" and ride the 54cm it fits me perfectly. I ride gravel mostly but also do road and triathlons on the bike. I just rode the LandRun 100 and even got to use it on some single track type roads, it performed great.
Ok, thanks for the tips. forgot to add that I do a fair amount of road riding when I'm short on time (but our roads are very bad, go figure, living in a expensive tourist town but roads are shit) as to get to our gravel roads takes longer. I will e-mail you 7sdad.
crapknees wrote:I have a 2015 Renegade Expert. When looking at similar bikes like the WarBird I just looked the components vs cost, the Renegade is a great value. The newer 2016 and 2017's are even better values as they have better wheels, thru-axles on the rear, and full hydraulic brakes. I'm 5'9" and ride the 54cm it fits me perfectly. I ride gravel mostly but also do road and triathlons on the bike. I just rode the LandRun 100 and even got to use it on some single track type roads, it performed great.
Mine is a 2015 as well but the Elite version. It's a great bike. I do wish it was 12x142 like the 2016 but really it's not a big deal. It does have a 15mm TA front which is mandatory for me these days. I'm a bigger guy and QR forks really flex under my weight (I like to think it's my power but I'm pretty sure it's my weight...lol). I don't get that with a TA fork.
knutte wrote:Ok, thanks for the tips. forgot to add that I do a fair amount of road riding when I'm short on time (but our roads are very bad, go figure, living in a expensive tourist town but roads are shit) as to get to our gravel roads takes longer. I will e-mail you 7sdad.
I have a 54 CM 2016 Renegade Elite, I'm planning to do DK 200 with a Lauf fork this year. Last year I did the Lotoja on it stock (200 mile road race). I have an extra set of wheels for CX riding and I've mounted the 40 mm Gravel Kings with room to spare, might do the Kenda Slant Six 1.8" tires for DK. I'm a little over 5'8". I've never been on the Salsa, but I do love my Renegade for road and single track. One big improvement I made was putting 3T Aeronova bars on, you can get in some super comfortable positions on these. Weighs a little over 18 lbs with the GK's.
I have a 2017 Warbird. I love the bike. I think if you plan to do some road riding as well as gravel you might look seriously at the Warbird. It is a pretty darn good road bike.
What is the max tire that can fit in the 2017 Warbird?
I know the version 1 Warbird was a tight fit for even larger CX tires.
Rbishop wrote:I have a 2017 Warbird. I love the bike. I think if you plan to do some road riding as well as gravel you might look seriously at the Warbird. It is a pretty darn good road bike.
Thought I'd update to this post. So I ended up buying 7sdad's bike that he mentioned in the beginning of this post. Got the bike and put it together, just measured the seat height and off I went. Wow, I was amazed how well it fit me right out of the box and how nicely it rode! Couldn't be happier and very excited. Now maybe I might start riding so much I'll get back into shape and actually enter a gravel race/ride!
codenamebob wrote:I have a 54 CM 2016 Renegade Elite, I'm planning to do DK 200 with a Lauf fork this year. Last year I did the Lotoja on it stock (200 mile road race). I have an extra set of wheels for CX riding and I've mounted the 40 mm Gravel Kings with room to spare, might do the Kenda Slant Six 1.8" tires for DK. I'm a little over 5'8". I've never been on the Salsa, but I do love my Renegade for road and single track. One big improvement I made was putting 3T Aeronova bars on, you can get in some super comfortable positions on these. Weighs a little over 18 lbs with the GK's.
Does this bike have bosses on the rear that a rack could be put on to go bike camping. What was the cost new when you bought the bike?
I just picked up a very lightly used 2017 Jamis Elite and and while I'm only one real ride in, I really love it. Can't wait to get some proper gravel tires on it. At <$4k it's priced competitively for the spec, but I wouldn't have gone with the Elite level if I didn't get such a good deal on mine.
It's my commuter rig as well as adventure bike, so a rack was essential; it's probably one of the best adventure\\gravel bikes you'll find with rack mounts. While it has mounts at the drop outs, it does not have any braze-ons on the seat stays or seat tube, but rather a single mounting hole behind what would be a brake bridge if it had caliper brakes. This somewhat limits your choice of racks, but I'm happy to have come across the Bontrager BackRack Light at my local Trek deal. Very sturdy and extremely light and not too pricey.
Sorry I don't have a better photo of the rack attachment:
crapknees wrote:I have a 2015 Renegade Expert. When looking at similar bikes like the WarBird I just looked the components vs cost, the Renegade is a great value. The newer 2016 and 2017's are even better values as they have better wheels, thru-axles on the rear, and full hydraulic brakes. I'm 5'9" and ride the 54cm it fits me perfectly. I ride gravel mostly but also do road and triathlons on the bike. I just rode the LandRun 100 and even got to use it on some single track type roads, it performed great.
So how did your bike survive all the muck at LandRun? How brutal was it for you and how long did it take you to finish. Big time Congrats
