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RoverAl wrote:Thanks that is interesting, I thought something was strange this year. Seems like Raleigh is going all in on the family and ebike trend. Anyway I hope the Tamland is refreshed with hydros, flatmounts, fork mounts all in a couple different offerings.
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2 local bike shops in my area dropped Raleigh last year. One of them told me he used be in the top 20 for Raleigh sales in the country. He said they became impossible to deal with. They wouldn't receive their inventory because they were told there was no stock and then it would end up discounted elsewhere. He also wasn't happy when they dropped bikes like the Revenio, which was a very solid mainstream endurance road bike. He told me he had a year when he sold more of those that Specialized's Roubaix and then suddenly it was gone.
The owners at Raleigh don't seem to know what direction they want to go in year after year. The whole family e-bike idea would not surprise me.
GOTA wrote:2 local bike shops in my area dropped Raleigh last year. One of them told me he used be in the top 20 for Raleigh sales in the country. He said they became impossible to deal with. They wouldn't receive their inventory because they were told there was no stock and then it would end up discounted elsewhere. He also wasn't happy when they dropped bikes like the Revenio, which was a very solid mainstream endurance road bike. He told me he had a year when he sold more of those that Specialized's Roubaix and then suddenly it was gone.
The owners at Raleigh don't seem to know what direction they want to go in year after year. The whole family e-bike idea would not surprise me.
"Still in the game" is a little extreme.

RoverAl wrote:
Not really when Raleigh employees state there will be no high end road bikes this year and maybe there will be an all road segment which is the hottest category right now. I think it's a fair question.
Here's the ebike they are floating around.
<span>Soonerinfrisco</span> wrote: Well it would certainly be great if they would get some bikes in stock! Been waiting on a 58cm Willard 2 for months. Supposedly end of July now. At $850 seems to be very hard to beat for the value and weight. Don't really want the Willard 1.
RoverAl wrote:
I saw this while on Amazon and thought about this post. Acvtually beat the price, check it out.
I have a Willard1 and love it, best bike I've owned.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MY7ZRR6?tag=viglink20276-20
RoverAl wrote:Price went up overbite, hope you snagged one
RoverAl wrote:I haven't ridden a Tamland steel vs alloy but have put over 3000miles on my Willard. The Willard is by far the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden, not that I have ridden all that many. It is a much better ride than my previous Kona Rove. No complaints at all, I wish I would've gotten the 2 but I wasn't sure if I'd like it so went with the 1. I might pick up a 2016 w2 if they come back in supply or wait to see what the new Tamlands are like. . What I like the most is the geometry suits me perfectly size 60
I don't have much to compare to in the mt. bike end
While you can ride some trails, the long wheelbase and low bottom bracket get in the way. Mix in sand mud and rock gardens and you will want a 29erSoonerinfrisco wrote:Well it would certainly be great if they would get some bikes in stock! Been waiting on a 58cm Willard 2 for months. Supposedly end of July now. At $850 seems to be very hard to beat for the value and weight. Don't really want the Willard 1.