Salsa Vaya GX - Anyone know when the 2018 bikes arrive?

Just wondering if anyone knows Salsa's typical release time.  All 2017 frames and bikes are out of stock everywhere.

2017's were showing up late July last year.

I just checked QBP (I work for a Salsa dealer) and the current sku's have no estimated arrival date and the haven't published new ones (2018 models) yet. If I remember correctly, new models often show up (as indicated above) in late July.

@ JWK1 - You can check in with The Mob Shop, in Ojai California - if memory serves they might still have 2017? Ask for Tim or Kelly.

Last year the new models were announced on July 25

Saddledrive is August 1-4 this year. Expect new releases from all the QBP brands then, as always.

Just an update in case anyone is interested.

I talked to a rep at Salsa today on the phone.  Now why didn't I just do that in the first place?  I don't know.  Seth (rep) told me that only the fat type bikes were announced at saddledrive, and the rest of the new 2018 bikes would be announced "in about a month".  This is to coincide with dealer availability.

So no news about any changes to the Vaya or any other 2017 bikes until the beginning of September.  I pressed him, but he wouldn't talk.  As best as I can remember, it went something like, "We don't want to make an announcement and have people get excited and then have to wait."

I'm hoping for thru axles front and rear.

The Kona Sutra LTD has the thru-axles that you want:

http://www.konaworld.com/sutra_ltd.cfm

https://www.cyclingabout.com/2018-kona-sutra-ltd-touring-bike/

JWK1 wrote:Just an update in case anyone is interested.

I talked to a rep at Salsa today on the phone.  Now why didn't I just do that in the first place?  I don't know.  Seth (rep) told me that only the fat type bikes were announced at saddledrive, and the rest of the new 2018 bikes would be announced "in about a month".  This is to coincide with dealer availability.

So no news about any changes to the Vaya or any other 2017 bikes until the beginning of September.  I pressed him, but he wouldn't talk.  As best as I can remember, it went something like, "We don't want to make an announcement and have people get excited and then have to wait."

I'm hoping for thru axles front and rear.

JWK1 wrote:Just an update in case anyone is interested.

I talked to a rep at Salsa today on the phone.  Now why didn't I just do that in the first place?  I don't know.  Seth (rep) told me that only the fat type bikes were announced at saddledrive, and the rest of the new 2018 bikes would be announced "in about a month".  This is to coincide with dealer availability.

So no news about any changes to the Vaya or any other 2017 bikes until the beginning of September.  I pressed him, but he wouldn't talk.  As best as I can remember, it went something like, "We don't want to make an announcement and have people get excited and then have to wait."

I'm hoping for thru axles front and rear.

\n \nThanks for sharing the update! Another month of waiting?! Argh! Well now I'll quit refreshing the salsa website 20 times a day

Erik_A wrote:The Kona Sutra LTD has the thru-axles that you want:

http://www.konaworld.com/sutra_ltd.cfm

https://www.cyclingabout.com/2018-kona-sutra-ltd-touring-bike/

Yeah, I like the bike, but I'm not crazy about the geometry.  A bit too low and long for me.  It's almost exactly like my Surly Disc Trucker.  I need a 100mm stem and about 50mm - 60mm of spacers to get it where I want it.  The Vaya gives me the stack I want, but is a bit too short on the reach, but I can live with that.  Fit wise, my GT Grade Alloy is perfect: 627 stack and 383 reach.  I have not found any other bike like that.  Unfortunately, the rest of the bike does not fit my purposes.  I could put up with having 38mm tires, but I need fenders.  You can't even put 45 longboards on the bike.  Jeesh.

Well, the 2018 Vaya is up on the Salsa website.  I think the frame is exactly the same as is the price of the frameset.  I was hoping they would go to thru-axles in the rear, but no big deal.  Hmmm, I don't know.  It seems to me at this point in time that $800 for this frameset is a bit high.  Maybe that's just me getting old.

QBP isn't showing an ETA for Vayas, weird because the new Fargo TI has an eta of November...

Erik_A wrote:The Kona Sutra LTD has the thru-axles that you want:

http://www.konaworld.com/sutra_ltd.cfm

https://www.cyclingabout.com/2018-kona-sutra-ltd-touring-bike/

I really like the setup of the normal one, but it doesn't have thru-axles.  Other than that, it's really nicely equipped.