The only thing that stuck out to me tonight in the difference of the two bikes is the Roker has a 20 mm longer head tube length which when I did the conversion was 25/32" I have heard/read of people cutting their head tubes so that shouldn't be a problem right.
The head tube is the part of the frame that the fork goes through. There's no cutting that down. Do you have any spacers between your stem and headset on your current fit? Or a picture of your stem (from the side) on the fork of your Tamland? Most people have spacers under their stems. If you have 20mm of spacers under your stem on the Tamland, that means you would take them off on the Roker and everything would fit you the same if the frame size and stem are the same.. You can cut off the excess fork sticking out the top. A shop should do that for less than what it would cost you to buy a hacksaw if you don't already have one and a 32 tpi blade.
The head tube is the part of the frame that the fork goes through. There's no cutting that down. Do you have any spacers between your stem and headset on your current fit? Or a picture of your stem (from the side) on the fork of your Tamland? Most people have spacers under their stems. If you have 20mm of spacers under your stem on the Tamland, that means you would take them off on the Roker and everything would fit you the same if the frame size and stem are the same.. You can cut off the excess fork sticking out the top. A shop should do that for less than what it would cost you to buy a hacksaw if you don't already have one and a 32 tpi blade.
No as far as I know I don't have any spacers on my Tamland as straight from the factory I was able to get a LBS to set the bike up the same as my race bike which has worked just fine as my race bike was pro fitted quite a few years ago. The only thing that was done to my Tamland that I know of the LBS had to put 2 small shims on the front rotor/disk as it was making a ticking sound when I took it out for a test ride. The stats difference is just that 20 mm. Not sure why if the geometry's of the bike are pretty much close to being the same that why this sticks out as being different but looks like no big deal.
Do you know anybody on this forum that has done the Epic 150? Looks like a ride I am going to shoot for in 2018 even though it's early in the season.
Zurichman wrote:No as far as I know I don't have any spacers on my Tamland as straight from the factory I was able to get a LBS to set the bike up the same as my race bike which has worked just fine as my race bike was pro fitted quite a few years ago.
Do you have a picture of your Tamland that you could post here? It would help us figure out the fit thing.
I purchased the Roker 2017 last winter at the discounted price via Raleigh website. I made upgrades including the wheels to I9 AR25 - SRAM XG. This season I rode it approx 2.5k miles on every sort of road/trail and weather condition southern VT and Western MA offer. IMO it handled all of it very well. I am not particularly fussy about bike fit nor do I seek to push my capabilities or my bike's capabilities to the limit. Before the Roker I spent my time between a older Specialized Roubaix (Carbon) and a older Felt F1X cross bike (alu). The Roker is easily my go to bike because fits my riding style and interests so well. I am happy with the 1X and the I9 wheels make a big difference.
Fishman wrote:I purchased the Roker 2017 last winter at the discounted price via Raleigh website. I made upgrades including the wheels to I9 AR25 - SRAM XG. This season I rode it approx 2.5k miles on every sort of road/trail and weather condition southern VT and Western MA offer. IMO it handled all of it very well. I am not particularly fussy about bike fit nor do I seek to push my capabilities or my bike's capabilities to the limit. Before the Roker I spent my time between a older Specialized Roubaix (Carbon) and a older Felt F1X cross bike (alu). The Roker is easily my go to bike because fits my riding style and interests so well. I am happy with the 1X and the I9 wheels make a big difference.
Thanks for that reply Fishman. May I ask what you paid for the Roker last winter @ the Corporate price to compare to what it is selling for now? I think the Corporate price now is $1799. Glad to hear that you luv your Roker and it has done well by you.
Do you have a picture of your Tamland that you could post here? It would help us figure out the fit thing.
Not a techy guy here Dangle so no don't know how to post a pic.
Boy am I ever in a quandry right now. I just happen to find a 2016 Raleigh Roker Comp on a website a couple of minutes ago. He only wants $1400 for it and it was set up as 2x from the factory. It's almost $400 cheaper than I would be paying for the 2017 $500 if you counted the tax and it's already set up as 2x. I think that is a win win. With the $500 difference I think I can then buy a good wheel set. The pics included looks like the bike is in pretty good shape. Would you buy a used bike off the web?
I see that the 2016 is all Shimano 105 which is solid as some of the Ultegra has filtered down to the 105 line.
The 2017 has the Sram Rival and since I have no experience with Sram I have no clue if that is better than 105 or not. The other thing is Raleigh lists the 2017 at 19.95 lbs and probably somewhere in the middle of the frames at that weight. I am only buy the bike because of wanting a lighter bike and the weight isn't listed on the 2016 I hoping to google that and find out.
Fishman wrote:I purchased the Roker 2017 last winter at the discounted price via Raleigh website. I made upgrades including the wheels to I9 AR25 - SRAM XG. This season I rode it approx 2.5k miles on every sort of road/trail and weather condition southern VT and Western MA offer. IMO it handled all of it very well. I am not particularly fussy about bike fit nor do I seek to push my capabilities or my bike's capabilities to the limit. Before the Roker I spent my time between a older Specialized Roubaix (Carbon) and a older Felt F1X cross bike (alu). The Roker is easily my go to bike because fits my riding style and interests so well. I am happy with the 1X and the I9 wheels make a big difference.
Fishman still curious as to what price you were able to nab your Roker for? Last question since you said you had the Roubaix(in carbon) and Felt cross(ALU) Does the Roker soak up bumps better than the other 2 and what is the longest ride you did on the Roker this last season?
I paid US$1,740. Longest ride was 120 miles - pavement, dirt, single track. Between the geometry and 38mm tires the Roker does a better job of soaking up the bumps. All and all it combines the best of my other bikes.
Fishman wrote:I paid US$1,740. Longest ride was 120 miles - pavement, dirt, single track. Between the geometry and 38mm tires the Roker does a better job of soaking up the bumps. All and all it combines the best of my other bikes.
Thanks for that info. I forget yours is the 2017 right which means it's 1x instead of 2x. Have you found any hills you can't climb with it and do you miss the higher top end spend that you can get with the 2x. I went over to Sheldon Brown's site and looks like at my cadence 78-80 I would be losing about 5 mph on the top end. 29.2 to 24.5 mph.
2017 Roker Comp has 1x. The higher gears cover the typical hills in my area (many short & steep). The wider tires and lower pressure make a difference also. When I upgraded the stock wheels I went with SRAM XG. It gives me a 10t low. While I am not a fast downhill rider I do enjoy not spinning out as easily as I would with 11t.