Haanjo EXP Carbon vs. Raleigh Roker Comp?

Hi everyone. I am looking at both bikes and trying to decide which would be a better bike for me. I am new to gravel riding and do not know much about frame geometry and how to apply numbers like "stack and reach". As this will be a bike I plan on using for a long time, I want to make sure I make a good decision. I am between 6'4" and 6'5" and weigh 205 lbs with a 36" inseam (I'm tall and lanky). I am going to use this bike mostly as a commuter (40 miles round trip) with some hard pack, southern California dirt fire roads mixed into the commute. I also would like to start doing some road rides with a cycling group that I currently ride mountain bikes with (they also have a road bike group). They do fun road rides/races every once in a while and I can see myself using this bike for 100 mile fun road rides, commuting on pavement/hard pack dirt, and riding the occasional gravel race. Any suggestions on how to assess both of these bikes would be great! 

Diamondback Haanjo EXP Carbon XL (59cm): Stack=622mm Reach=378mm BB Drop=70mm $1529.49



Raleigh Roker Comp (62 cm): Stack=641mm Reach=403mm BB Height=72.5mm $1652.99


I also like the Haanjo Carbon Comp but they don't have any more in stock. Thank you for any input you could give me!
Kerry

I can’t help with your decision but both diamondback and Raleigh are on Activejunky.com for another 4 or 5% cashback. Just a FYI.

IMHO check out the geometry and fit.  If they both fit then consider the gearing setup - will you be fine with a 1x11 setup?  Lots of people love 1x and I'll be getting 1x12 on my next mtb.  Gearing is a personal item - I could argue for/against either setup.  For road and gravel I prefer 2x gearing, but that's just me. 

The Roker is a bigger frame for sure and would probably fit you better. The Haanjo has a bigger gear range and could be more versatile. It also has rack mounts in case you plan to use panniers to carry stuff to work.

I’ve had to work with Raleigh/Redline in the past. I wasn’t impressed. After a month, I still didn’t have a rear derailleur hanger. I haven’t had to order parts from DB but have been impressed with the value on several of them that I have built for friends.

I was looking at the same bikes you were and I went with the Roker....

1. Roker has a longer Wheelbase (I believe)
2. You can put 650b's on the Roker as well and you still have STI and not bar end shifters.
3. Although the Haanjo has a 3 by crank which would be great for bikepacking and climbing  I think if you got an extra wheel set and chaining/Cassette you could have an excellent road/commuter and an excellent bike for trails and rougher stuff.
4.  If toe rub is an issue and you are a big guy I think the roker would fit you better.

Just my two cents worth.    

mgef2000 wrote:I was looking at the same bikes you were and I went with the Roker....

1. Roker has a longer Wheelbase (I believe)
2. You can put 650b's on the Roker as well and you still have STI and not bar end shifters.
3. Although the Haanjo has a 3 by crank which would be great for bikepacking and climbing  I think if you got an extra wheel set and chaining/Cassette you could have an excellent road/commuter and an excellent bike for trails and rougher stuff.
4.  If toe rub is an issue and you are a big guy I think the roker would fit you better.

Just my two cents worth.    

Here's a web site that one can use to show the differences in fit between the bikes. 
http://www.bikegeo.net/

I used this to compare the Roker and Hanjo to my 61cm Specialized Tarmac road bike.  As stated above, the Roker has a longer wheelbase and less toe overlap.  Both bikes can fit but the Hanjo will have less standover clearance, and more likely to have toe overlap.

Note that some of the dimensions were missing so I had to approximate and with some trial and error I got the calculated values (wheelbase, reach, stack) to match the manufacturer's values.

langdalek wrote:Hi everyone. I am looking at both bikes and trying to decide which would be a better bike for me. I am new to gravel riding and do not know much about frame geometry and how to apply numbers like "stack and reach". As this will be a bike I plan on using for a long time, I want to make sure I make a good decision. I am between 6'4" and 6'5" and weigh 205 lbs with a 36" inseam (I'm tall and lanky). I am going to use this bike mostly as a commuter (40 miles round trip) with some hard pack, southern California dirt fire roads mixed into the commute. I also would like to start doing some road rides with a cycling group that I currently ride mountain bikes with (they also have a road bike group). They do fun road rides/races every once in a while and I can see myself using this bike for 100 mile fun road rides, commuting on pavement/hard pack dirt, and riding the occasional gravel race. Any suggestions on how to assess both of these bikes would be great! 

Hi
I'm also looking at the same three bikes and kind of interested in the 
FRAMED course carbon also,but not much info on the latter.

I'm about 6'2 1/2" and 34.5".Long torso so I like A shorter seat tube.

Already own A 60cm Tamland. Have not ridden it very far yet.

Just looking at the frame and geometry.The DB is going to have A longer ST and bigger SOH and shorter WB.
Was most interested in the Haanjo Comp.But with my shorter legs the 
Roker should fit me better right out of the box.

I'm still going to try to test ride A large or XL Haanjo  if I can find one in stock.For the Raleigh I never seen A Tamland or ROKer at the LBS Raleigh dealer.But I live in A
small town.Hope this helps some and good luck.



Hope it is okay to post a link to another bike forum.
This post has at least two tall riders posting about their DB's.
http://forums.mtbr.com/diamondback/diamondback-haanjo-910957.html

jjbnum3 wrote:
Hi
I'm also looking at the same three bikes and kind of interested in the 
FRAMED course carbon also,but not much info on the latter.

I'm about 6'2 1/2" and 34.5".Long torso so I like A shorter seat tube.

Already own A 60cm Tamland. Have not ridden it very far yet.

Just looking at the frame and geometry.The DB is going to have A longer ST and bigger SOH and shorter WB.
Was most interested in the Haanjo Comp.But with my shorter legs the 
Roker should fit me better right out of the box.

I'm still going to try to test ride A large or XL Haanjo  if I can find one in stock.For the Raleigh I never seen A Tamland or ROKer at the LBS Raleigh dealer.But I live in A
small town.Hope this helps some and good luck.



Hope it is okay to post a link to another bike forum.
This post has at least two tall riders posting about their DB's.
http://forums.mtbr.com/diamondback/diamondback-haanjo-910957.html

jjbum3

Having also owned the Tamland 1st this spring and not having ridden it a lot of miles either I can tell you that there is night and day difference between the Tamland and the Roker. You better buy one soon if you want one though as the production has stopped on them.

Zman

Zurichman wrote:

jjbum3

Having also owned the Tamland 1st this spring and not having ridden it a lot of miles either I can tell you that there is night and day difference between the Tamland and the Roker. You better buy one soon if you want one though as the production has stopped on them.

Zman

Truth is I did not see the Roker until after I bought the Tamland.I posted about the deal on the other bike forum.I think the 2016 Roker was $200/300 more.Sucks they are stopping production,or I would wait to buy the Roker.I ride aluminum,steel and carbon fiber mostly on road right now.I think they are also getting rid of most mountian bike they had out in 2017.

Did you buy the same size?I might drop down one size as I have short legs for my height and might just add to the stem length if needed.
Thanks for the feedback.

jjbnum3 wrote:

Truth is I did not see the Roker until after I bought the Tamland.I posted about the deal on the other bike forum.I think the 2016 Roker was $200/300 more.Sucks they are stopping production,or I would wait to buy the Roker.I ride aluminum,steel and carbon fiber mostly on road right now.I think they are also getting rid of most mountian bike they had out in 2017.

Did you buy the same size?I might drop down one size as I have short legs for my height and might just add to the stem length if needed.
Thanks for the feedback.

I bought the same size 56 cm( I am 6 ft. 34-35 arm inseam with 34" inseam legs)I ride a 57 cm Lemonds Both bikes fit the same. I am on Raleigh's email list and looks like they are going after the beach cruiser type of riders that don't ride their bikes much which kind of sucks for sure. I am super glad that I bought the Roker. Had I had it to do over again I might have bough the Sport as it still has 2x Shimao while the Roker has 1x Sram which I haven't got use to yet. I only had one ride on it before winter set in here at PA.

Zman