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Zurichman wrote:\n \nThe obvious differences are the tamland is steel the willard aluminum. Tamland has 2x Drivetrain willard a 1x. Tires on the willard are 40s, on the tamland 32s. The praxis crank and bottom bracket on the willard are superior to the unnamed crank of the tamland. I really wanted the Willard 4 but getting a Willard 3 at almost 56% off was a deal I couldn't pass up.
So curious at my end what the difference is between the Willard 3 and the Tamland 1?
Zman
Sbutler6 wrote:If you don’t mind me asking, where was this deal? I’m guessing it’s long gone now\n\nIt was on the Raleigh corporate partner site. I checked it one afternoon before I left work and it was marked down to $649. I used the save5 code to get an additional 5% off, to 617.49. I got lucky being on the site at the right time. Hard not to buy the bike when it was that price. Next best deal is the Amazon price you have.
abcspjbjd wrote: \n \nIt was on the Raleigh corporate partner site. I checked it one afternoon before I left work and it was marked down to $649. I used the save5 code to get an additional 5% off, to 617.49. I got lucky being on the site at the right time. Hard not to buy the bike when it was that price. Next best deal is the Amazon price you have.\n \nWow that’s amazing, you basically stole it from them. I’m having a little bit of buyers remorse now lol. Hopefully the price drops to $649 again in the next couple of months and the credit card I used will refund me the difference.
Zurichman wrote:
At my end I think the Raleigh's run a little bit large either that or I enjoy riding a shorter frame bike.
Good luck Zman
abcspjbjd wrote: It was on the Raleigh corporate partner site. I checked it one afternoon before I left work and it was marked down to $649. I used the save5 code to get an additional 5% off, to 617.49. I got lucky being on the site at the right time. Hard not to buy the bike when it was that price. Next best deal is the Amazon price you have.
Sbutler6 wrote:Really nice bike! I’m going to pull the trigger on the same model in the next few days, I’m glad to see you’re happy with yours. I have a question about the sizing. I’m 5’11-6’ ish, so right between 56 and 58. Do you find this bike runs larger or smaller compared to anything else you’ve had in the past? I used to ride a Giant Defy in M/L, so I’m leaning towards getting a 56, but seeing you on a 60 has me doubting that decision. Thanks for any suggestions, and enjoy that thing!
abcspjbjd wrote: The obvious differences are the tamland is steel the willard aluminum. Tamland has 2x Drivetrain willard a 1x. Tires on the willard are 40s, on the tamland 32s. The praxis crank and bottom bracket on the willard are superior to the unnamed crank of the tamland. I really wanted the Willard 4 but getting a Willard 3 at almost 56% off was a deal I couldn't pass up.
Aude22 wrote:Just got my Willard 3 put together! 95% complete out the box was nice if wasn’t for brake cable. Someone routed the front bake cable behind the fork where it would rub on the tire. I had to remove front brake and re route it straight down.
pryde wrote:How are the HED wheels on the Willard 3?\n \n28 straight gauge spokes connected to a good rim? Nothing to worry about as long as the build quality is okay. If not, any local shop can tension them perfectly.
I am considering this one but the low spoke wheels turn me off being 190 lbs and fairly strong/aggressive rider.
dangle wrote: 28 straight gauge spokes connected to a good rim? Nothing to worry about as long as the build quality is okay. If not, any local shop can tension them perfectly.
Sbutler6 wrote:Anybody have luck going tubeless with the stock rims and tires?
Cerps wrote:I just got my Willard 3 delivered today. I'm having some second thoughts after seeing the paint. It appears to be a matte finish. I'm worried about durability. My full suspension bike is matte black and seems to be susceptible to rubbing and scratches. I'd rather not have to cover the whole thing in tape. How is the paint holding up for those of you that have had it for a bit? Are there any problems with paint chipping when rocks fly up?
abcspjbjd wrote:First post, but I figured someone else out there would like to know about the 2018 Raleigh Willard 3 so here it is.
I bought it from Raleigh on a crazy sale. I ordered it on a Thursday and it was delivered the following Tuesday. I was concerned about derailleur damage because of the posts of others and their experiences. However, this bike was packaged and protected better than any bike I have seen in a box.
This is the fourth bike I've put together, so I wasn't concerned about the build.
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Just a cover piece, not a box within a box.
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This is a size 60, so it took up the entire box.
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Foam blocks held on with velcro on the rear derailleur and the front tire against the frame.
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Side view of derailleur protection.
Handy box, with tubeless valves.
Nice crankset with a sticker I thought this was a nice touch. Yes there was one for the other side for those who struggle with installing and removing pedals.
As you can see, the packaging was nice. There were pieces of foam and velcro straps where any piece touched the frame or box, ie rear derailleur, front tire, etc.
Anyway, the build went smoothly, the only issue I had was the front brake cable was run under the down tube, which I re-routed to the front side of the headtube. Not sure why it was done that way, but no big deal.
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The rear derailleur didn't need any adjustments at all, and so far with the neighborhood shakedown ride, I am liking the 1x gearing. This is my first time using SRAM road stuff, but I don't foresee it being a problem. Click, release, it drops, click, push, it moves up. Bingo.
Overall, I am impressed with this bike and the component selection. Here is the ready to ride shot. This bike is bright, I mean highlighter yellow bright.
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I'll post some obligatory ride pics soon.
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