Land Run 2019

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JMosey
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#1Oct 31, 2018, 8:29 PM
Registration opens Saturday... anyone else getting excited? It’s 19 or so weeks out and I’ve already spent way too much time researching tires, how to convert my bike to single speed, etc. I have some crazy stuff planned for next year and it all starts in Stillwater!
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crapknees
21 posts
#2Nov 1, 2018, 11:05 AM
Hotel is booked, waiting for Saturday 8:00 am to register. Best gravel race I've been to in my opinion.
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brando
47 posts
#3Nov 1, 2018, 11:14 AM
JMosey wrote: how to convert my bike to single speed,

Curious, are you going single speed for this race due to potential mud, or is single speed otherwise a good choice for this race, or some other reason?
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crapknees
21 posts
#4Nov 1, 2018, 11:31 AM
brando wrote:

Curious, are you going single speed for this race due to potential mud, or is single speed otherwise a good choice for this race, or some other reason?

At least for me I come prepared with all the pieces necessary to convert my bike to single speed if necessary as a result of mud breaking the derailleur. I bring a chain that is already cut to length, Wolf Tooth Pliers, quick links, derailleur hanger, and some metal zip ties.

If you're tough enough to try out those hills with a single speed then you can skip all that extra planning. I swapped to a XTR derailleur with a clutch and a Wolftooth TanPan so I could run a 42 cassette. I've (knock on wood) never had issues with the mud with this setup. If it's a dry year like last year though anything works.

Biggest thing to consider I think is to make sure if you're running disc brakes to get some semi-metallic brake pads. If it's wet out there the clay paste will destroy the organic break pads that come factory on most bikes within a few miles. Always fun using your feet to stop on a 40mph down hill.

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JMosey
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#5Nov 1, 2018, 12:57 PM
brando wrote:

Curious, are you going single speed for this race due to potential mud, or is single speed otherwise a good choice for this race, or some other reason?

I'll show up with my new Warbird 1x, but after hearing so many horror stories I want the ability to switch it over to single speed on course if the worst happens. I will need to talk to my shop to get an idea on how best to go about it. Someone suggested the Surly Singulator but I haven't looked into it yet.

Bobby was on the Orange Mud Adventure Podcast yesterday and had some good info on tires. I believe it was the Vittoria Terreno Wet that he recommended for mud. He also said to go small on your tire size. I normally run 47 on my 650b wheelset but I think I might go with a 700c and a set of 33's or 35 for the extra mud clearance.

I talked to a guy at the shop who is more experienced than I am and he eased my mind a bit. He said a lot of the people end up with ripped derailerurs b/c they don't walk when they should and insist on trying to ride... which forces a bunch of mud up into the drive train, which eventually leads to bad things.

We booked an AirBNB maybe a mile from the finish line so I'm pretty fired up... Time to go ride!
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brando
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#6Nov 1, 2018, 3:07 PM
JMosey wrote:

I'll show up with my new Warbird 1x, but after hearing so many horror stories I want the ability to switch it over to single speed on course if the worst happens.

I see, thanks! I think I've recently started to carry what I would need to do this in a pinch, but maybe I should double check; not specifically for Land Run, just in general.
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Zurichman
1,526 posts
#7Nov 1, 2018, 8:28 PMedited
JMosey wrote:

I'll show up with my new Warbird 1x, but after hearing so many horror stories I want the ability to switch it over to single speed on course if the worst happens. I will need to talk to my shop to get an idea on how best to go about it. Someone suggested the Surly Singulator but I haven't looked into it yet.

Bobby was on the Orange Mud Adventure Podcast yesterday and had some good info on tires. I believe it was the Vittoria Terreno Wet that he recommended for mud. He also said to go small on your tire size. I normally run 47 on my 650b wheelset but I think I might go with a 700c and a set of 33's or 35 for the extra mud clearance.

I talked to a guy at the shop who is more experienced than I am and he eased my mind a bit. He said a lot of the people end up with ripped derailerurs b/c they don't walk when they should and insist on trying to ride... which forces a bunch of mud up into the drive train, which eventually leads to bad things.

We booked an AirBNB maybe a mile from the finish line so I'm pretty fired up... Time to go ride!

JMosey and others I have this ride on my radar but I have heard some horror stories about this ride. Two years ago when I flew out to Kansas and did the Pony Express 75 miler they said 2 of their riders finished the ride but had $300 - $500 in repairs to their bikes afterwards as the peanut butter mud just tore up everything including bottom brackets. This is where/what the 1x bikes were made for but still sounds like it's a crap shot. Good luck to everyone and would enjoy some ride reports after this ride. Hoping you have a great weather year.

Zman

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JMosey
82 posts
#8Nov 1, 2018, 8:30 PM
Zurichman wrote:

JMosey and others I have this ride on my radar but I have heard some horror stories about this ride. Two years ago when I fly out to Kansas and did the Pony Express 75 miler they said 2 of their riders finished the ride but had $300 - $500 in repairs to their bikes afterwards as the peanut butter mud just tore up everything including bottom brackets. This is where/what the 1x bikes were made for but still sounds like it's a crap shot. Good luck to everyone and would enjoy some ride reports after this ride. Hoping you have a great weather year.

Zman

Yup... that’s part of what appeals to me. I like the idea of a race where almost half the people traditionally don’t finish. I’m not fast, but I’m stubborn and I can ride smart. Next season is my year of doing epic stuff and it starts with Land Run... then Barry Roubaix 100, Sancho 200, Michigan Coast 2 Coast, HAMR, and whatever else I can find!
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Zurichman
1,526 posts
#9Nov 1, 2018, 9:35 PM
JMosey wrote:

Yup... that’s part of what appeals to me. I like the idea of a race where almost half the people traditionally don’t finish. I’m not fast, but I’m stubborn and I can ride smart. Next season is my year of doing epic stuff and it starts with Land Run... then Barry Roubaix 100, Sancho 200, Michigan Coast 2 Coast, HAMR, and whatever else I can find!

I need to get back into riding shape over winter and then hope to do some longer stuff next season. One ride on my radar is the Skull 120 out @ Burns Oregon. They had 41 starters in the 120 last year and only 28 finishers. Most dropped down to the shorter ride. I did read a ride report and they said that the humidity is between 0-15% and it drys you out like a prune. They actually were forcing riders onto the riders who weren't use to the desert area.

At my end still not sure I want to start a ride that I know can destroy my bike. Maybe in the future but not now enjoy though.

Zman

BTW I have never seen anything on the Sancho 200. I will have to check that out though now.
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JMosey
82 posts
#10Nov 1, 2018, 10:10 PM
Zurichman wrote:

I need to get back into riding shape over winter and then hope to do some longer stuff next season. One ride on my radar is the Skull 120 out @ Burns Oregon. They had 41 starters in the 120 last year and only 28 finishers. Most dropped down to the shorter ride. I did read a ride report and they said that the humidity is between 0-15% and it drys you out like a prune. They actually were forcing riders onto the riders who weren't use to the desert area.

At my end still not sure I want to start a ride that I know can destroy my bike. Maybe in the future but not now enjoy though.

Zman

BTW I have never seen anything on the Sancho 200. I will have to check that out though now.

It’s crazy how many great rides are out there. I’ll need to look into Skull 120. Sancho is pretty small... the truly crazy race on that schedule is HAMR. There’s a great video on You Tube... you might have to look up HAMR enhanced gravel or add Marquette. This year’s route will go from Copper Harbor to Marquette, point to point. If you’ve never spent much time in the UP of Michigan it’s hard to understand just how remote it can be. Coast 2 Coast is another awesome event. I rode last year and it took me 20 hours. Hoping to beat the sun with a little more training and less weight to carry around.

I spend way too much time thinking about this stuff. I’ve been up since 4:30, it’s now past 11 and I can’t sleep b/c I’m thinking about dynamo hubs vs battery pack... what color should I anodize my stem? Should my next set of wheels be 700c? What color? Man, I love bikes!
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Zurichman
1,526 posts
#11Nov 1, 2018, 10:25 PM
JMosey wrote:

It’s crazy how many great rides are out there. I’ll need to look into Skull 120. Sancho is pretty small... the truly crazy race on that schedule is HAMR. There’s a great video on You Tube... you might have to look up HAMR enhanced gravel or add Marquette. This year’s route will go from Copper Harbor to Marquette, point to point. If you’ve never spent much time in the UP of Michigan it’s hard to understand just how remote it can be. Coast 2 Coast is another awesome event. I rode last year and it took me 20 hours. Hoping to beat the sun with a little more training and less weight to carry around.

I spend way too much time thinking about this stuff. I’ve been up since 4:30, it’s now past 11 and I can’t sleep b/c I’m thinking about dynamo hubs vs battery pack... what color should I anodize my stem? Should my next set of wheels be 700c? What color? Man, I love bikes!

Here is a light I really like which I think is in about the $100 range. It's called the Hope 1 and it's made in England. I think it's kind of hard to find now. It burns forever and has 3 settings on it. It uses 4 AA batteries which aren't that hard to carry around. I think probably over 30 hrs. on low and not sure how long on high as I have never run it on high solid. It has a button on top that makes it real easy to shift thru the 3 brightness settings and has a flashing setting for during the day. Here is a review of it if I can get the link right.

I am trying to figure out wet tires for the Gravel Grovel in IN the end of this month

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews/lights-reflectives/hope-vision-1-led-front-light

Zman
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Zurichman
1,526 posts
#12Nov 2, 2018, 6:06 AMedited
JMosey not to hijack your thread or anything. If you want to do a really bad ass ride you need to have the Spotted Horse 150 or 200 on your ride schedule for next year. It is run in Oct. and was run the other weekend or so. It is run by bad ass ultra RAAM solo rider/finisher Sarah Cooper in Iowa. There is a write up of this years ride/race over at gravelcyclist by Adrienne. I love the pic of her at a Casey's c/store with grocery bags over the outside of her shoes. I think if I remember looking at the race results 1/2 - 3/4 of the field didn't finish this year because of the heavy rain and of those that did finish most dropped down to the 150 that was scheduled to ride the 200. The 200 finishers was very low. She has had this kind of weather for the last 2 years that I know of at least. I am thinking that this ride would make the Barry Roubaix 100 look like a cupcake ride. Just a FYI. She promises you to show you some of the best gravel riding Iowa has to offer and is probably just her training routes she rides to get ready for RAAM. The rider is Adreinne Taren.

Zman
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crapknees
21 posts
#13Nov 3, 2018, 10:57 AM
Sold out in 7 minutes.

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JMosey
82 posts
#14Nov 3, 2018, 1:58 PM
I was able to get three people registered in 7 minutes... that might be more impressive than finishing the race!
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Zurichman
1,526 posts
#15Nov 3, 2018, 10:10 PM
JMosey wrote:I was able to get three people registered in 7 minutes... that might be more impressive than finishing the race!

You probably should have played the lottery today as I heard it filled in 8 minutes. I am guessing because of the nice weather last year. Good luck to all. Wondering if the ride can be lucky enough to have 2 good weather years in a row?

Zman
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BurkC
32 posts
#16Jan 14, 2019, 4:57 PMedited
I'm in! (LR50) and the training is well underway. I am lucky because the back roads of Logan/Payne County Oklahoma are where we ride every week. When its wet, it sucks. When its dry its fast.

I will be on a Salsa Vaya. I am putting together some bags right now for additional items that I don't carry on a training ride.

FYI: The race hosts are putting on a benefit ride for a local rider who was diagnosed with a form of brain cancer. The roads will be some of the same that you ride in the LR100

http://www.districtbicycles.com/curto-dirto/
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BurkC
32 posts
#17Feb 1, 2019, 10:35 AM
How is everyone's training coming along?
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JMosey
82 posts
#18Feb 1, 2019, 10:37 AM
BurkC wrote:How is everyone's training coming along?

I was super lazy in December but am ramping up nicely. I'm turning into a bit of a fair-weather rider up in MI this year, but am putting in 10-12 hours per week on Zwift with a 4ish hour ride on Saturday and a 2-3 hour ride on Sunday... add in a couple of Zwift races during the week for threshold work and I'm having a blast! How about you?
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JMosey
82 posts
#19Feb 10, 2019, 9:09 PM
Too early to start discussing tires and bike setup? I’m leaning away from a dedicated mud tire as it would be for this one race and I’d probably never use it again. A buddy who has raced it a few times says if the mud gets that bad you should be carrying your bike anyways. He recommended Cannonballs, which I’ve had some luck with. My new Warbird will fit up to 45 but I was thinking of going smaller for some added clearance, maybe 38,

I’m ordering a new set of Velocity Ailerons tomorrow... hoping they have enough time to get them anodized to bling out the bike.

It was also recommended that i pickup a hydration pack so that I’m not carrying bottles, toolkit, etc when they are attached to the bike and I’m forced to carry it. Fortunately my neighbor had a brand new Osprey Raptor 14 he’s giving me, just need to get out and practice with it.

Thought on drop bags? I wasn’t planning on it, but som pics I’ve seen from former years make it look like fresh kit could be awfully appealing.

Anything I’m missing?
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BurkC
32 posts
#20Mar 11, 2019, 1:48 PM
A link to all the Land Run 100 2019 courses on Ride With GPS is here:

https://ridewithgps.com/auto_approve/Event/76722/N09YM31bwDtTHnmJ

https://ridewithgps.com/events/76722-land-run-100-2019

If you already have a Ride With GPS account you will gain access to all the premium features of the paid app version just by joining the Land Run 100 2019 event through this link. The premium features will unlock navigation within the Ride With GPS app on your smart phone IOS or android device. If you wish to not create an account with Ride With GPS you can still view and download the routes to use on any of your GPS devices.
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