I have it narrowed down between these two, and I'm trying to figure out which one to get. They both seem like good options, but I'm wondering what their pros and cons are with respect to each other.
The panaracer appeals to me more because the center strip appears to make it faster on pavement or hard pack. anyone with experience on both these tires?
I have used both in a tubeless set. I agree, the panaracers ride faster. I used those in DK in 2017, had one flat. But have had about 1,500 training miles without flats.
The cannonballs are bomb proof. I've used them in DK 2018, and three events since, without any flats, for nearly 2,500 miles of training.
The only other difference I have noticed is that the panaracers are "tighter" on the wheel. Maybe have a slightly smaller diameter bead. When I swap I have more trouble removing the panaracer from the wheel. I have to use both levers, which I don't like due to the risk of having to re-tape.
after getting 3 flats in a row (because I didn't have tubeless wheel), I'm starting to realize how important durability is. If you get a flat, that's it. race pretty much over, unless sealant takes over I suppose.
my teammate was also running cannonballs (tubeless), and he got a pinch flat in one of the races, where the side wall got a small hole. I think the GK's have thinner sidewalls? So are pinch flats more of an issue on the tubeless systems?
spectastic wrote:after getting 3 flats in a row (because I didn't have tubeless wheel), I'm starting to realize how important durability is. If you get a flat, that's it. race pretty much over, unless sealant takes over I suppose.
my teammate was also running cannonballs (tubeless), and he got a pinch flat in one of the races, where the side wall got a small hole. I think the GK's have thinner sidewalls? So are pinch flats more of an issue on the tubeless systems?
One of the major advantages of tubeless is that it pretty much eliminates pinch flats. I think your teammate's sidewall got cut by something.
I went to my bike shop yesterday to get tires for this weekend. They said that they were planning on running the Teravail Cannonballs, so that's what I got too. Haven't ridden them yet, but I usually like their advice.
reubenc wrote:I went to my bike shop yesterday to get tires for this weekend. They said that they were planning on running the Teravail Cannonballs, so that's what I got too. Haven't ridden them yet, but I usually like their advice.
Curious as to whether the Cannonballs throws stones like I have read on the ride reports that the Gravelking SK's do..
Cannonballs roll great on pavement as well as being DK bomb proof. Anytime I ride the roads on them I'm amazed at how fast they spin up! Never noticed any "throwing stones" issues...QUOTE username=spectastic userid=6647256 postid=1307923293]I have it narrowed down between these two, and I'm trying to figure out which one to get. They both seem like good options, but I'm wondering what their pros and cons are with respect to each other.
The panaracer appeals to me more because the center strip appears to make it faster on pavement or hard pack. anyone with experience on both these tires?[/QUOTE]
Zurichman wrote:
Curious as to whether the Cannonballs throws stones like I have read on the ride reports that the Gravelking SK's do..
Attractive members of the opposite sex have been introducing themselves to me with increased regularity ever since i started rolling 650b Teravail Cannonball Light & Supple Skinwall tires. I may stick with them for awhile. The tires...
I had a set of Cannonball (Durable model) on my Diverge, and I thought they were very nice but a little over built (which is not a bad thing if you a bomb proof tires). I WTB Riddlers...FYI, Cannball runs a little big, as mine measured 44mm, though inner rim width will affect the sizing more or less
Since I only have limited experience with 2 sets of tires right now Clement xplor MSO and Kenda Flintridge Pro. If anybody has any experience with either one of them what would the Cannonball's have over these 2 tires say rolling or speed wise as I have found both of these 2 tires to be what I guess to be bulletproof.
no it doesn't eliminate pinch flats. the sidewalls are more vulnerable and can still get pinched between the rim and a large rock. look it up.
That’s not what “pinch flat” means. Look it up. Seriously- just google the term, and read the first hit that turns up. Or the second, or the third...They will all demonstrate that you are incorrect.
That’s not what “pinch flat” means. Look it up. Seriously- just google the term, and read the first hit that turns up. Or the second, or the third...They will all demonstrate that you are incorrect.
Sorry for the delayed response. I was out riding. On my tubeless tires, which I set up myself without any problems or tire damage. 😁
If you keep tubeless tires at an appropriate PSI, you'll never have the problem described at that link -- and you'll never have a "pinch flat," as the term is commonly used by cyclists, since there is no tube. Oh, but you have problems finding the proper pressure for your tubeless tires, don't you?
once again, more false assumptions. it was my teammate, not me. he was running appropriate psi. logic isn't your strong point. why don't you stick to riding.
spectastic wrote:once again, more false assumptions. it was my teammate, not me. he was running appropriate psi. logic isn't your strong point. why don't you stick to riding.
Well, I never said it happened to you, did I? I was merely telling you that, at 60psi, you won't have that problem. Nor will your teammate.
This is like shooting fish in a barrel, which is not much fun. 'Bye, now.
That’s not what “pinch flat” means. Look it up. Seriously- just google the term, and read the first hit that turns up. Or the second, or the third...They will all demonstrate that you are incorrect.
True. Pinch flat, also called a snake bike, is when the tire bottoms out on the rim causing (often) a pair of holes in the inner tube. This doesn't happen with tubeless.
IMHO its the biggest advantage of tubeless. They were practically the only type of flat I would get, but with tubeless I can bottom out on the rim and nothing happens. (Well, I still cringe a little bit). LOL.
True. Pinch flat, also called a snake bike, is when the tire bottoms out on the rim causing (often) a pair of holes in the inner tube. This doesn't happen with tubeless.
I've bottomed out my front tyre countless times without any issues, but i've heard about tubeless pinch flats, I think they exist. Exact same thing as with a tube, but here the sidewall of the tyre gets pinched, and if the hit is hard enough you get those same two holes. Mind you, i've only heard about it happening on MTBs after hitting a rock garden or something.
