Tire Upgrade / Carbon Wheels

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clarksonxc
358 posts
#21Jun 15, 2019, 12:18 PM
jfranci3 wrote:Keep believing the hype and not bringing reasonable counter points. Best to worst, you see some signal, otherwise it’s just noise. The micros are too micro to notice in the macro. Again, you’re looking at 200g rotational weight in the scheme of 80000gr. Even on a steep hill with a powerful, light rider at a low cadence, the micro acceleration is very micro per stroke. Micro * micro is not signal, it’s noise.

Keep basing your opinion on a study from 2008 that half the brands listed and tested no longer exist (I wonder why), and tubeless technology was barely in it's infancy. If you can't feel the effect of spinning up a lighter rim, I can't help you.

As to the other posters, I do agree that there are absolutely arguments to be made on not getting an Enve wheelset, cost being the largest. There are very good options out there for much less money. This is a very valid argument, and the OP will need to decide that for himself. The fact that he came on to this forum with his number leads me to believe he did not want to go that route, but I'll wait for any response he might have before I comment further.
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TonyM
87 posts
#22Jun 15, 2019, 12:34 PM
The gain are marginal indeed......But I feel them and you live once.....
Just ordered the new DT Swiss GRC 1400:
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/products/wheels-road/gravel/grc-1400-spline/

I really love these 240 hubs!
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SWGraveler
247 posts
#23Jun 15, 2019, 4:12 PM
BubbaS wrote:

I concur, mine make my bike feel more fun to ride and it is 1/2 pound lighter. More fun means I ride more and enjoy riding more.

Yep; at the end of the day this about fun for all but a very few who are riding professionally. There have been mornings when having a new whatever on my bike caused me to get out of bed instead of hitting the snooze button. Maybe I'm lame that way but it matters to me and I spend my money where I get value as defined by me.

A point about wheelset prices; 2500 bucks isn't the price point for carbon wheelsets anymore, there are plenty of choice for 1000 bucks US that are well manufactured and safe. My Aeolus Pro 3V ended up being about 1500 Canadian with discs, cassette and taxes.

True, but this does not mean that a $1250 set of carbon wheels are the same as a $2500 set. I have Aeolus XXX 2's which are really close in weight to G23's and for me were a lot cheaper due to an industry connection.

My other passion is cars; I find it interesting that the choice arguments online are very similar. Yes, a Mustang GT is very fast, certainly fast enough but folks will spend 5X that on a Ferrari (or whatever) that is only marginally faster. In the end, buy what you like, where the value lies for you. What gets old are the implications that those who buy the more expensive option are uninformed/stupid/wasting their money; that is simply not the case, they just see a different value proposition. I see folks spend lots of money on things that I just don't understand at all like pickups that never haul anything or go off pavement..At least cycling gear contributes to being healthy!

R. King

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TonyM
87 posts
#24Jun 17, 2019, 1:07 AM
OT:

(...My other passion is cars; I find it interesting that the choice arguments online are very similar. Yes, a Mustang GT is very fast, certainly fast enough but folks will spend 5X that on a Ferrari (or whatever) that is only marginally faster)

In terms of track time and track performance on racetracks there is however no comparison between a Mustang, a 911 or a Ferrari....LOL....Drive yourself and you will feel it and see it in the times.

But on the streets, roads and highways you are definitely right.
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pushstart
181 posts
#25Jun 18, 2019, 8:03 AM
Volsung wrote:Regardless of weight differences and aerodynamic gains, carbon rims can provide a (slightly) more compliant ride and with greater durability and a longer warranty. The new Light Bicycle rims have a FIVE YEAR warranty.

You could get some MUSA Velocity rims for half the price, but they may dent on the first rim strike and not be tubeless-able after that.

Yeah, after destroying a Stans Grail rim in a race, I switched to carbon (also LB rims). They weigh less & ride feel is great, are stiffer (I use the 36mm-deep ones for gravel), hookless bead is much tougher than the soft alloy on the Grails, and have been absolutely drama-free with tubeless and trouble free on the trail. And they cost $154/rim vs. the $105/rim for the alloy Grail. It's a no brainer. (I guess that's why I have 4 LB wheelsets on various bikes.)
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