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ccand51997 wrote:
I'm running a newer Furious Fred in front with an old Speed in the rear. On my road-focused bike. The mountains I ride don't have smooth roads at 6-10,000 feet and I love the big tires on the road. I have a Furious Fred (Liteskin, Addix Speed, measures 45mm on a 19 internal) I'll trade you for a Speed in Onestar (if it is the 2.0 inch size). I really like that combo now, but my Speed is not going to last much longer.
But yeah, the Challenge is the tire I'm looking to when my Speed wears out. I just wish it was even bigger than 45mm. I can't get over how much a 2.0 Speed smooths out the expansion cracks (going up and down) on the mountain roads I climb.
ljsmith wrote:
You can still get the older One star G-One speed from some of the German sites. Get them now before they run out.
ccand51997 wrote:
Thanks. I just ordered a pair. That should last me a couple of years and heres to hoping Schwalbe comes to their senses.
Responding to a few things here....
MTB tires with reasonable durability and performance have weighed a lot more than 500 grams for a good while. Even racier types have sidewall protection and size they didn't have earlier. I see one company test prototypes and competition where I'm trail steward and know some of their wheel and tire people who say an overall good tire and weight weenie don't mix.
The reviews make me more curious about the $35 American Classics. As said before I'm willing to pay a premium for something that really stands out like the Rene Hearse knobby models I have but I ride with some who have the small knobby Schwalbe and with time consider it inferior if anything. They're not rolling ahead of my GR1 Bontragers on a long paved downhill. Their tires pack up sooner and wash out when others don't. I do confess I discounted the Bontragers against some others until had them. Now I can't see spending much more unless a tire has some truly outstanding characteristics.
For the point of testing, there is a YouTube video out there with Trek's machine that replicates conditions. I've guessed others have setups like that. My engineer, product management and race shop acquaintances will have tires with prototype stamped on them and on occasion I see them comparing those to popular competitors. It's been interesting when I've seen Trek staff with manufacturer logo tires marked prototype. Some those have become private label and some the tire makers' branded tires.
ljsmith wrote:
You can still get the older One star G-One speed from some of the German sites. Get them now before they run out.
ccand51997 wrote:
Yeah, don't believe them. My tires came in today and guess what they were?
New model Addix Speedgrip trash otherwise known as "I want to go slow as long as my tires last longer."
Now I don't even know what to do with them other than give them away on ebay or something. It seemed to good to be true.
imwjl wrote:Responding to a few things here....
MTB tires with reasonable durability and performance have weighed a lot more than 500 grams for a good while. Even racier types have sidewall protection and size they didn't have earlier. I see one company test prototypes and competition where I'm trail steward and know some of their wheel and tire people who say an overall good tire and weight weenie don't mix.
ljsmith wrote:
That sucks. I would ask them to give you a refund and a return shipping label. It can't hurt to ask, worst they can say is no. I just stocked up on Pacestar Thunderburts and Onestar G-One bites from Germany and they were all the correct non-Addix tires.
ccand51997 wrote:
At least this story had a moderately happy ending. I contacted them and they responded and said they would look into it. A few days later they said that, indeed, the site had the old information. Since sending the tires back would be costly, they just refunded almost all the purchase price. Of course, as you pointed out, the tires that are now free are the new Addix G One Slows, so what am I supposed to do with them?
My next big road tire is going to be either the Conti Speedking Racesport or the Challenge Strada Bianca when they offer them in 45mm.
Volsung wrote:I wondered what happened to mtb tires. They used to be like 500g but now they're up there with fat bike tires.
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