SWGraveler wrote:Time will tell but I'll be surprised it S hasn't already tested these as they are pretty aware of the presence of BRR at this point..
I would be more surprised if they had. Sometimes I wonder if the folks that pay attention to rolling resistance numbers are not a huge minority. I would guess the vast majority of users don't know or don't care or just ride what their buddies ride. Otherwise, no company would put out a tire that would not distinguish itself. If I could ask one company a financial question, I would ask Schwalbe how many G-One Speeds they have sold since they went to Super Ground/Speedgrip tires and BRR identified them as super slow. If they just keep selling then obviously no one cares about RR and if they don't, why have they not changed yet?
Slim wrote:I too was disappointed with the BRR results for this tire.
Right now, it seems they are so similar, it hardly makes sense to have both in the line up.
I wonder this about a lot of tire companies. I love Conti tires, but they make SO many kinds and yet, can't seem to make the exact tire I want (which is a 45mm RaceKing Protection with deduced knobs down the centerline. Or alternatively, I want a 700x45mm GP5000 for the rear/road). Why did they need to reinvent tires for gravel? Would a 35, 40 and 45mm Raceking not be sufficient to the task?
Same with Schwalbe. I want a hybrid Speed/All-round that is has the dimples in the middle with the larger All-Round knobs on the edges. With Super Race casing and Speed compound. Fast on the road and enough side tread to prevent slipping when climbing out of ruts.
Why did they need to reinvent tires for gravel? Would a 35, 40 and 45mm Raceking not be sufficient to the task?
Most gravel tires are designed to handle well on pavement. This means rounded profiles, so usually the side lugs are the same height as the tread. For instance, I love Thunder Burts, but they are a little sketchy on fast downhill pavement turns when you lean them and the side knobs engage the pavement. I am waiting on higher volume tires and I think they are starting to come. In my experience 40mm gravel tires are slower on most gravel courses than fast 2.1 XC tires unless there’s a lot of pavement. Bring on the 45 and 50mm gravel tires!
[QUOTE username=ljsmith userid=4757441 In my experience 40mm gravel tires are slower on most gravel courses than fast 2.1 XC tires unless there’s a lot of pavement. Bring on the 45 and 50mm gravel tires![/QUOTE] I agree. I just built a gravel bike out of a chinese mtb frame in order to get more tire clearance for the rear. My front is a Furious Fred that measures 46mm on a 19 internal. I have two of them, so I'm hoping they get me down the road a couple of years until there are some better choices in the 45-50mm range. In my dry, desert conditions, cornering knobs are useless, so the rounded profile works best here.
I am waiting on higher volume tires and I think they are starting to come. In my experience 40mm gravel tires are slower on most gravel courses than fast 2.1 XC tires unless there’s a lot of pavement. Bring on the 45 and 50mm gravel tires!
