Yah, I thought of posting something like this. They have been teasing it for days. Sounds like it keeps the handling of the grail (~70mm trail) with big tires. My first thought is that if I want 50mm tires, I'm gonna lean to a hardtail.
Looking at that picture though, it looks like it comes with 45mm Ramblers. That is a pretty good choice. I tend to like the 40mm version better personally. But I ain't gonna lie, there are days when I throw a 50-54mm tire on my Canyon fork (front) and take advantage of the extra flotation, ability to blast over rough stuff, and ability to run lower PSI. (so maybe I was wrong about wanting a hardtail).
And, with a frame weight of 950g, and a full bike at ~8.5kg (about the same as a Grail), its gonna be a fun ride on ridged friendly single track. Not a jumper, but I can see it being quite the climber.
My old Canyon gravel bike frame weighs 940g (SLX) and the SL version weighs 1040g. This one isn't lighter. (well, maybe the XXS weighs 925, lol). Grizl looks to be reinforced a little bit for catching a little air and being rowdy. (In my case, the complete bike is 7.4-7.9kg mostly based on tires/wheels). costs less than a UP frame. ;-)
Nice to see them get all in into the off road drop bar bike world - with a range from world cup race bikes to fun fatter tired drop bar bikes.
edraven wrote:The SLX claims 950g, but the SL claims 925g!
That's lighter than a S-Works Diverge, and lighter than a OPEN U.P., with a complete bike costing less than one of those framesets.
$2500 for a Shimano 810 2x bike is a serious bargain. But... my brother just bought a Canyon Stoic hardtail that was listed at $1799 and ended up being over $2300 when it finally arrived. Duty, shipping and a price increase AFTER he had ordered it were all factors. I'd just plan on adding $400+ to any Canyon you order for a final price to your door.
The SL has a size listed and the SLX doesn't, so maybe they're comparing apples to different sized apples? Or they made a mistake. I'm not sweating 25g in frame weight regardless, even if the pink frame is dope af
The video review by BikeRadar that I watched mentioned that the steerer tube on the Grizl is 1-1/4 inch (31.8mm) rather than the normal 1-1/8 inch (28.6mm). That seems like a very odd decision and it makes changing stems difficult and/or limited. I can't imagine wanting to ride a rigid fork off-road without a Redshift ShockStop stem but that won't be an option if the BikeRadar review is correct about the steerer tube size.
Edit: I just now read that some carbon forks DO use a 1-1/4 inch (31.8mm) steerer tube. That's news to me. Searching online, the 31.8mm stems I found are all very short stems for downhill bikes.
Motorazr wrote:The video review by BikeRadar that I watched mentioned that the steerer tube on the Grizl is 1-1/4 inch (31.8mm) rather than the normal 1-1/8 inch (28.6mm). That seems like a very odd decision and it makes changing stems difficult and/or limited. I can't imagine wanting to ride a rigid fork off-road without a Redshift ShockStop stem but that won't be an option if the BikeRadar review is correct about the steerer tube size.
Edit: I just now read that some carbon forks DO use a 1-1/4 inch (31.8mm) steerer tube. That's news to me. Searching online, the 31.8mm stems I found are all very short stems for downhill bikes.
I think Giant started the whole 1-1/4 steerer tube thing and I think all their road and gravel bikes use it.
Motorazr wrote:The video review by BikeRadar that I watched mentioned that the steerer tube on the Grizl is 1-1/4 inch (31.8mm) rather than the normal 1-1/8 inch (28.6mm). That seems like a very odd decision and it makes changing stems difficult and/or limited. I can't imagine wanting to ride a rigid fork off-road without a Redshift ShockStop stem but that won't be an option if the BikeRadar review is correct about the steerer tube size.
Edit: I just now read that some carbon forks DO use a 1-1/4 inch (31.8mm) steerer tube. That's news to me. Searching online, the 31.8mm stems I found are all very short stems for downhill bikes.
Looks like they will have one that fits the 1-1/4 in steerer late this year...From the Redshift ShockStop website: *Oversized 1-1/4 inch available in late 2021 - sign up here to be notified
$2500 for a Shimano 810 2x bike is a serious bargain. But... my brother just bought a Canyon Stoic hardtail that was listed at $1799 and ended up being over $2300 when it finally arrived. Duty, shipping and a price increase AFTER he had ordered it were all factors. I'd just plan on adding $400+ to any Canyon you order for a final price to your door.
I know Canyon is a German company. But if you order from Canyon USA that only ships to the states. Should there be no duty fee? Or are they shipping these bikes from over seas? I like what they offer , but I prefer a shorter ST for my build and fit.
Canyon US is located in California. Call them on the phone - they are extremely helpful. Can't say I've ever dealt with a company with better customer service.
Nope, no duty fee in the US.
jjbnum3 wrote:
I know Canyon is a German company. But if you order from Canyon USA that only ships to the states. Should there be no duty fee? Or are they shipping these bikes from over seas? I like what they offer , but I prefer a shorter ST for my build and fit.
This is interesting - The Grizl got the ultra rare 5 STAR review in Bike radar. Obviously gravel is a continuum from mountain bikes to near road bikes, but for what its trying to do (and at its price point), its hard to complain.
This is really nice bike for the price. I totally get size specific geometry and wheel size. That said, that's not what I'm looking for. I want a do-it-all bike frame that I can run both my 700x38 and 27.5 x 2.1" and given my shorter statue I'll need to get one of their 650b sized bikes.
Right now BMC URS still my dream frameset, but can't stomach the price. Next up in the Devinci Hatchet, but it doesn't come frame only. Still pretty happy with my current aluminum frame.
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