Redshift Shockstop Pro Stem

Redshift are taking preorders for their Shockstop Pro stem.  It uses titanium hardware and extra machining to lighten it by 50g.  It also gets a new finish.  The downside is that the price is $80 more. 

https://redshiftsports.com/products/shockstop-pro-suspension-stem

 

Siiiiick.  Hopefully they make a silver version too.

GravelHAWK16 wrote:I'd rather save 25% on the standard and take the extra weight then save 15% in weight and pay full price with the pro. But I'm also not a weight weenie. :-)

Agreed.....I could tell not one iota of difference weight wise by feel when I installed one. Plus unless you know better, you can't really tell the difference appearance wise from a regular stem.

Good to have options but fails the $1/g weightweenie cost/benefit rule of thumb

GravelHAWK16 wrote:I'd rather save 25% on the standard and take the extra weight THEN save 15% in weight and pay full price with the pro. But I'm also not a weight weenie. :-)

Why would you buy the Pro after getting the standard version?

shiggy wrote:
Why would you buy the Pro after getting the standard version?

No idea. I had the option to pre-order the Pro or buy the standard. I bought the standard. Im going for budget comfort not weight savings on my bike. Ill just lift more lbs this winter during leg training to make up for it. Haha

I bought the standard for 20% off and swapped out the steel hardware for Ti. Shaved a few grams, but more importantly it works exceptionally well at what it does. I think I'll wait for the new to wear off before I buy the Pro. 

Curious to people that have used this. How much vibration buzz did it take out of your bars? How hard was it to find out which 0 ring(elastomers) to use?

Zman

jlharden wrote:I bought the standard for 20% off and swapped out the steel hardware for Ti. Shaved a few grams, but more importantly it works exceptionally well at what it does. I think I'll wait for the new to wear off before I buy the Pro. 

What price did you pay and where did you buy it from?

Zman

It's strong suit is definitely damping buzz and chatter and it does it well. I wouldn't ride without it on a gravel bike. I think I applied the 20% off coupon code at Universal Cycles?  I'd have to look back. Redshift had them on their website at 25% off just a few days ago! Elastomer setup is a breeze. I started at recommended baseline and then down one from there.

Zurichman wrote:Curious to people that have used this. How much vibration buzz did it take out of your bars? How hard was it to find out which 0 ring(elastomers) to use?

Zman

I definitely like mine!  I just recently had a bike fit and needed to get a shorter stem so I road without the redshift for a couple of rides... it's kind of nice to get a reminder of just how harsh a non-suspended stem is.
set up is pretty easy. I used the baseline for my weight then stiffened it up to take some of the softness out (I had a lot of weight on my hands before the bike fitting). the recommended  base line set up for weight is pretty close if not just right. If it's not feeling right, it really only takes a few minutes to swap out the elastomer shims/wedges while out on a ride.

If there is one draw back of the redshift, its that there  is no negative dampening... in other words, there is a gap between the guts of the stem and the bottom of the body which makes it a little awkward when pulling up on the bars to clear pot holes or bunny hopping. it's not that you can't figure out the timing or effort. I just need to get used to it.

as for maintenance of the stem..I guess I would flip the elastomer wedges over at some point in the season (1500 miles or so?) i found that the wedges get kind of worked into place and the stem gets a little soft . Again not hard to do, and it's right there in the open when you do a deep clean of the bike.

Zurichman wrote:Curious to people that have used this. How much vibration buzz did it take out of your bars? How hard was it to find out which 0 ring(elastomers) to use?

Zman

I really like mine; I've had it for about a year and it clearly takes the edge off of things. Set up/changing is easy as others have said. I too initially used the recommended set up and then went softer. I called them at one point to ask which elastomers to use and they were very helpful. You can feel the bars moving at some points but after a few rides it feels totally normal to me. IMHO, ~50 non-rotating grams on a gravel bike = LOL. 22lb bike + 165lb rider = ~85,000 grams so...

My ocd can pick up on bike part weights, especially when it's higher up on the bike.

Take a high quality seatpost and lightweight saddle and compare it to a cheap heavy aluminum one and a brooks saddle, then sprint out of the saddle moving the bike side to side.  You'll probably notice it too.

Volsung wrote:My ocd can pick up on bike part weights, especially when it's higher up on the bike.

Take a high quality seatpost and lightweight saddle and compare it to a cheap heavy aluminum one and a brooks saddle, then sprint out of the saddle moving the bike side to side.  You'll probably notice it too.

Lightening up one part, like a stem in this case, makes very little difference.  But, a bike is a collection of parts.  If you build a bike with many lighter parts, it really can add up to a large difference.  Many people obsess over frame weight, but the frame makes up only around 15% of the weight of a bike.  That means if you really want to have a light bike you need to focus on that other 85%, which includes the stem.  

Volsung wrote:My ocd can pick up on bike part weights, especially when it's higher up on the bike.

Take a high quality seatpost and lightweight saddle and compare it to a cheap heavy aluminum one and a brooks saddle, then sprint out of the saddle moving the bike side to side.  You'll probably notice it too.

Ok, while not rotating, those parts are clearly moving when you stand and I know from riding without a saddle bag that I too can feel that difference but then again, my road saddle bag has a tubular tire in it.. I absolutely believe in the placebo effect of "faster" parts but frankly, I will never believe anyone who claims they can feel a 1/1000 difference in the weight of their bike; that  = 100g on my previous example of a 22lb bike + 165lb rider. I also think it would interesting if folks would monitor their own weight as closely as that of their bike; mine is frequently up/down 2lbs from one day to the next. If I were to let myself become dehydrated I would feel so much faster until I collapsed by the side of the road..

I'm only 41 and have fully functioning elbows so I don't need a suspension stem, but when I'm 60 and fat I'll definitely get this lighter version along with a lauf and eesilk seatpost for my moots ybb gravel bike.

Volsung wrote:I'm only 41 and have fully functioning elbows so I don't need a suspension stem, but when I'm 60 and fat I'll definitely get this lighter version along with a lauf and eesilk seatpost for my moots ybb gravel bike.

Hot dang(amn)! I'm almost 59 so if I forward this to my wife maybe she'll take it as my Christmas wish list!

Honestly, why take this thread to uglyville; what works for one is not the same for all. The more folks that ride bikes the better it is for all of us.. I'll assume you are one of those folks who don't wave back when I wave at you(another cyclist). We have a lot to learn from the Jeep Wrangler community; they wave at each all day long and hey, why not??

Things not working for everyone was the point of my post.  Ljsmith shared it and immediately people insult it as a weight weenie part and say how it's not worth it.  Incomes and needs are different.  Some people have Mcfk stems and some people have Dimension stems.  Some people need suspension and some don't.  No one's forcing anyone to buy anything and pre-shaming someone for wanting lighter parts doesn't create a helpful discussion or healthy community.

Volsung wrote:Things not working for everyone was the point of my post.  Ljsmith shared it and immediately people insult it as a weight weenie part and say how it's not worth it.  Incomes and needs are different.  Some people have Mcfk stems and some people have Dimension stems.  Some people need suspension and some don't.  No one's forcing anyone to buy anything and pre-shaming someone for wanting lighter parts doesn't create a helpful discussion or healthy community.

I just re-read and frankly, I don't really sense shaming, just folks expressing their particular value opinions on the new vs. old versions. Weight weenie is not really a derogatory term; it is pretty much common semantics at this point and some take it as a point of pride. Yep, everyone gets to assess value in their own terms.

Frankly, that you are trying to portray that your post was not snarky is pretty comical; you are clearly mocking older riders with physical issues who buy every possible suspension device so they can ride comfortably.

If you are gonna' say it, at least own it.