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Zurichman wrote:This was the Ten Thousand. Rapha Chicago and Comrade drew up a 40 mile, 72.8, 130, and massive 230 mile routes. I rode the 72.8 and there was a support stop (unofficial) at mile 37ish and a gas station everyone stopped at around mile 52. Well done event and the 72.8 mile route was beautiful and hurtful. A good day on the bike.
I looked it up after posting that this might be what they use to call the 10,000 race. How was the water stops and over all race support even though it was listed as self supporting? Would love to do it next year as my IL. State ride. Who doesn't like free.
Zman
bwepps wrote:This was the Ten Thousand.
Well done event and the 72.8 mile route was beautiful and hurtful.
ccand51997 wrote:
Recently I've been trying to run some light, fast tires tubeless (Conti Speedking Racesport/Schwalbe Furious Fred) and for a while, it seems perfect but then inevitably the thin tire starts to bleed, gets a small cut and I ask myself why I don't just run Raceking Protections all the time instead of dealing with flimsy tires?
bobknh wrote:I'm no longer active on the Gravel Riding Forum. But I still ride gravel daily in my southern NH gravel paradise. Other than the fact that my tires are wider (50mm), I still feel that tubeless is not worth the hassle for me.
....I would add however, that currently, it is almost impossible to buy gravel wheels and tires that aren't tubeless compatible.
I just wish that tire and wheel manufacturers would get their standards better coordinated, so that it wasn't so damn hard to install these tires regardless of tubeless or with tubes.
I just wish that tire and wheel manufacturers would get their standards better coordinated, so that it wasn't so damn hard to install these tires regardless of tubeless or with tubes
Zurichman wrote:imwji since you have some interest in this tire saw this tire review of the Tufo Thnundero tire. Good enough you I am buying the 700 x 40 tan wall when Bike tires Direct gets them in stock 6/16. $10 cheaper than my Donnley xplor MSO .
Zman
Here's the Speedero review I saw earlier - works with Google Translate for me - and what looks like another USA source. Now I have my GR1 warranty replacements new in box that are probably not too unlike the Speedero but I'm very curious to try the Speedero. I'd buy the GR1 over Schwalbe G's any day but it seems like the Tufo Thunder and Speedero could be a fantastic combo of tire and price.
https://www.mtbiker.sk/clanky/124238/test-tufo-speedero-gravel-rychlik-z-ciech.html
imwjl wrote:Tubeless is so mature and common now there's also little to no reason to not know all the important techniques or tricks at the start of going tubeless.
chas wrote:
Furious Fred isn't tubeless, right? It is thin and light!
A little bleeding and seepage never really bothered me.
chas wrote:
Yeah, 50mm kinda mitigated the need to go tubeless. I'm not gonna get a puncture or pinch flat on gravel at that size. I do get punctures on roads (where debris is all over) and with skinnier tires, but at 50mm+ I'm ok with tubes.
Good point about everything being Tubeless compatible. It used to be SO easy to change a tube. Now it is a PITA as tire and wheel compatibility is so wonky. In the last 5+ years, most of my flats are when I mount the tire, because i find it hard to mount the tire without pinching the tube (no, this hasn't been a problem for the last ~50 years). Sometimes I just give up and mount it tubeless!
chas wrote:
The did, as of roughly the beginning of this year. The problem is that it is a top secret standard. Costs ~500euro to buy a copy, you can't tell anyone what is in it. Do your tires and/or wheels meet the standard? Good question - the consumer gets no info on that. Not printed on the sidewall or the wheel, so good luck with that. I'm pretty sure that Conti designed the new generation of GP5000 to meet the standard, but I've never seen anything written verifying that anyone does/does not meet the standard - so what good does that do?
WinterRider wrote:
So.. could only get this far down the tread before hitting the reply option. LOL..
--->so mature and common now.. LOL.. again. Teasing.. as the tone and posting here mature.. 'common' ...respectfully meant. Posters prior to yours nailed it mostly.. hence I ask if you've a financial incentive to
post pro tube-ass? That is of course NOT otta bounds.. just shades it a mite.
Admittedly I've only non-tube experience up to 33 width. I'm extreme stubborn.. steadfastly stayed tube-ass.
Far more technique savvy (me) than the most.. never again tube-ass. Leaves much higher % of riders stranded than tubes ... by many many miles.
FWIW.. ran some old model Conti Ultra 2's w t's.. used the worm to seal smallish holes. Saved rd side grief.
I'm not sure how to understand your quoting me, and it seems as if you're espousing willful ignorance if we have a baseline or understanding the start here is having products designed for tubeless and good tire levers. My personal experience is now 7 bikes and wheels "tubeless ready/compatible" going back to 2008. A lot more experience via bike facilities, programs and events. There have been some setup bothers more troublesome at times but for actual riding and events absolute advantages to have tubeless.
It is okay if you don't like tubeless but I doubt you are going to convince anyone with experience or turn around a bike industry that's embraced improved and superior products. You will for sure not convince me to change when after the considerable personal experience, I've much more via the the lessons, youth teams and event support.
bobknh wrote:
I'm currently running Schwalbe 40mm G-One Allround tubeless with Orange Seal Endurance sealant. They are good tires and I haven't really had any problems. But, they are considerably heavier than my old Compass Bon Jon's with Challenge latex tubes. Subjectively they feel sluggish compared to the Bon Jon's. While the G-One's bite better on loose gravel and dirt, they fee sluggish compared to the BJ's on hard pack and pavement. For my next set of tires, I'll be shopping around for a lighter weight 40mm gravel tire that I will run with tubes. Any suggestions?
Xenophon wrote:René Herse Barlow pass.On pavement my Barlow Pass Extralights punctured every 2 weeks or so. My Smoqualmie Pass Endurance were better but still not very tough. I've had much better luck with the Strada Bianca Pro, mine are 36mm but they also come in 40 mm.
Xenophon wrote: but don't ever think it doesn't have limitations and that you won't bump into them, just like tubes have limitations. You're a recent convert, in time you'll find out that it's not all roses and sunshine. I've come to think that tubeless has its place, depending also on the terrain you ride but the holy grail it is not.